खेँ खेँ खेँ खेँ चोर भैया, आप ने तो केवल जनसंख्या के तथ्यांङक देखलिया, इसके बाद जब आपने कितना क्षत्रि जागीर मै है, सेक्शान अफिसर से उचे के पद मेँ कितना क्षत्रि है, बिजनेस मेँ क्षत्रिका स्टेक कितना है, जिडिपि मेँ क्षत्रिका कान्ट्रिब्युशन कितना है, ल्याण्डहोल्डिंङ कितना है, पोलिटिक्समे कितना है, यह भि देखना चाहिए ।
अगर ठकुरी और पहेलेका राजखान्दानके नजदीक रहनेवाला कुछ ४-५ क्षत्रि खान्दानको उस तथ्याङकसे हटाकर देखेँ तो मालुम होता है कि क्षत्रि तो बहुत बुरेहालसे ठगा हुआ है । कसम से । क्षत्रि और मगर दोनो बरोबर है, मगर जाति क्षत्री से भि थोडा उपर रहा होगा । तामाङके हाल उससे भी बुरा है ।
Tika? thakuri k ho? chettri nai ta ho ni haina? raja k ho? thakuri chettri ho ki haina? tyestai kura garchas bhane 300 barsa kasko sasan ma baseko raicha ta hami? panchine kura nagar hero.."jastai newar ko joshi bahun ho ra aaru jati chan chettri haru newar mai pani" hami kura garda newari bahun newari chettri bhandainau ta haina? hami newar bhanchau ni? euta newar le kam bigaryo bhane ho ho sabai newar khattam bhanne chalan cha ni haina hamro? tyestai "KHAS" includes Bahun,Chettri,Kami,Damai,Sarki,Sanyasi,gharti,bhujel etc...khai kina kina dosh sabai pahade khas bahun lai aucha..politics ma head nai king gyanendra thiyo uh thakuri chettri ho,aaru chettri netas pani thiyo...antim ma dosh bahun as a whole kina? kurai garne ho bhane 300 barse thakuri sasan bata niskeko ho ahile hami..so please stop this nonsense. we are nepalese. I am himali khas, u could be newar, Kirat etc..bottom line we are Nepalese. Stop blaming eachothers n live in harmony. we need to unite.
We should make whole Nepali as one race. Nepali people get offended when they are callled either indian or chinese but nepali. Our nepalipan is different and have distinct personalities no matter what caste you're from.
अच्छा bahunkto भैया, इतना सवाल पुछ लिया कि लगता है तुझे लम्वि लेक्चार देने पडेगी ।
सुनो, बाहुन एक जात है, सम्प्रदाय नहिँ है क्यूँकि उनमे से बैश्य बाहुन, सुद्र बाहुन और क्षत्रीय बाहुन नहिँ होता है । जैसि, सन्यासि, उपाध्याय बाहुन जात के भितर का ग्रुप है जो बाँकि क्षत्रिय वैश्य और सुद्र से उँचे के जाति मानते है ।
नेवार और थारु और किराँत और मैथिल और भोजपुरी और अवधि और गुरुङ सभि अलग अलग सम्प्रदाय है । जात नहिँ है । इसिलिए मैथिल, भोजपुरी, नेवार, और अवधि सम्प्रदाय मेँ बाहुन से सुद्र तक सभि है, जैसे कि नेवार बाहुन नेवार बैश्य, नेवार क्षत्रि, नेवार सुद्र जो तु कन्फुज हो रहा है । वैसे हि किराँत, गुरुङ और थारु सम्प्रदायके अन्दर भि बाहुन से सुद्र तक का उँचा और निचा जात है । लेकिन वह थोडा सा गोलमाल है । मैथिल, भोजपुरी, अवधि और नेवार सम्प्रदाय मे हिन्दु वर्णाश्रमका अधिक प्रभाव रहा । किराँत, गुरुङ, थारु और मगर सम्र्पदाय मै हिन्दु वर्णाश्रम कि प्रभाव कम रहा, यह सम्प्रदाय उन्हिका धर्म और थोडा हिन्दु और थोडा वुध धर्म के प्रभावमा मे रहा । नेवार मे भि बुध धर्मके प्रभाव रहा ईसिलिए उनके वीच यह वर्णाश्रम गोलमाल दिखाइ पडता है ।
इन सँभि सम्प्रदायके बाहुन मेँ से पर्वते बाहुन सबसे खराब है । जिसको तु ने पहाडि खस बाहुन बोला । जव तु नेपाल कि हिस्टारीको गौर से अध्ययन करेगा, वहाँ बाहुन का रोल हि दिखेगा । छल कर के द्रव्य शाहको राजा बनाने वाला भि बाहुन, और इण्डिया के दलालि करके शाह राजाको हटाने वाला भि बाहुन । मदिसेको राष्ट्रपति बनानेवाला भि बाहुन । ठकुरी बोलके शक्तिशाली क्षत्रियोँको बाँकि क्षत्रिसे उपर रखने वाला भि बाहुन । और क्षत्रियोँको बाहुनमे मिलाकर उपर दिखाने भि बाहुन । यह बाहुन पोलिटिसियन ने अपने फायदेके लिए बहुत उँचनीच किया है ।
क्षत्रियोँकि भितर ठकुरी और राजसंस्थाके आसपास रहा खान्दान करीव २-४% है । यह २-४%का उँचा क्षत्रियोने सभि सरकारी जागिर बडे बडे सम्पति और उँचेका पद लेके बैठे है । लेकिन यह आम क्षत्रियो से फरक है, क्युँकि यह तो बाहुनने सरपे चढाया राजखान्दान के नजदीक होनेका फायदामेँ है । ऐसे तथ्याङक मे आम क्षत्रीयोँ और खानदानी अल्प क्षत्रियोको इकट्ठा रखने से आम क्षत्रियोँको धोका हो रहा है । क्यूँकि तथ्याङकमेँ उनको उपर दिखाइदेगा लेकिन जनसंख्या और समानुपातिकके नजरसे देखो तो यह आम क्षत्रियोँको बहुत कम अवसर मिला है । यह वात आम क्षत्रियोँको मालुम पडना चाहिए ।
MAGARS The magars originate in the western and centerl areas of Nepal.though are found in sacttered communities throughtout the country. They may be of either Hindu or buddhist faith.Traditionally hill farmers Inhabiting he lower slopes.They also known for their fighting abilities and many have recruited into Gurkha regiments of the British and Indian armies. It is thought to be a strong cultural bond between magars and Gurung.
GURUNG The gurungs also originate in the western and central areas of Nepal.Though they have tended to Inhavit higher areas adopting a lifestyle of sedetntary agricultural and nomadic pastorals.like the magars , gurungs have been well represted in Gurkha units.They are predominantly Buddhist,Thougu small Hindu and shamanist communities exist. In recent years ,may magars become involved in the hotel business, especally in the pokhara region.
THAKALIS The thakalis originate from the kali Gandaki Gorge and ,like many Nepali groups have been subject to both Hindu and buddhist influences. Adept entrepreneurs, They have cashed in on the trekking boom and have established little hotles all along the Annapurna circuit and have also extended their influence to other parts of country. Before Nepal was opened upto tourism, their economy was dominated by subsistance farming and , in the Kali Gandaki area, by salt trading.
TAMANG The Tamangs are found around the kathmandu valley and in central and eastern Nepal. Mainly Buddhist, they form a significant of the proportion of the porters in these regions; bur many are also engaged in the agriculture as small holders and day labour. The Tamang language originates from the Tibeto-Burmese family.
NEWARS The Newars are of Mongolian origin and are the dominant ethnic group of Kathmandu valley an surrounding central areas of Nepal. Despite their geogriphical origins, the majorities are now shaivite Hindus following received hindu customs although communicates of Newari Buddhists do remain. They represent perhaps the greatest synchronism of the Tibetian and Indian traditions of any Nepal's ethinic groups and also incorporate aspects of aninism. The Newari language has been influenced by both the Tibeto-Burmese and Indo-European families. Traditionally leading traders, Newars once organised trains of basket carrying porters over the trans Himalayan passes to Tibet. They are also remarkable craftsmen and developed the unique building style that successfully blends influences from India, china and Tibet with carved wood and pagoda -like temple roofs.
KIRANTI The Kirantis are comprised of Rais and Limbus and are the oldest known people in Nepal. They live in the eastern hills of Nepal, the rais being concentrated in the Solukhumbu, Dudh Kosi, and Arun Valley, while the Limbus are at the east of Arun Valley, in the kanchanjangha region. And also extend in to northern Parts of west Bangel in India. Both groups have supplied recruits to Gurkha resiments an reference is made to their fighting sprit in the Hindu epic " Mahabharat" of Mongoloid features,both have Tibeti - Burmies languages. The religion of the Limbus incorporates elements of Buddhism and Shamanism, while that of the Rais are more influenced by Hinduism Sunwars &Jirels:These related groupes are small in number and are found in the area around and to the east of jiri,the place that gives the jirels their name.Their religion is significantly influenced by Hinduism, but has distinct or apices and deities.
BHOTIA The Bhotia lives in the northern part of Bhutan, Sikkim, Nepal and along the Indo-Tibetan border in Garhwal, Kumoun and Himanchal Pradesh. They are Mongoloid people who gradually moved off the Tibetian plateau. Tibetan Buddhism plays an important part in shaping Bhotia society. The monastery is at the center of the social environment, and the prayer flags, prayer wheels and chortens are a vital part of daily life.
ETHINIC TIBETIANS Many housands of Tibetens fled their homeland as a result of Chinese Take over. Most are now resident in and around Kathmandu and Pokhara valleys, but some have remained in Bhotia country where they have been highly successful in integrating with local populations, especially through intermarriage.
LIMIPAS The Limipas are a small group living in the limi Valley in the north west of Nepal.
DOLPOPAS With a pollution of no more then a couple of thousand. Dolpopas live in remote areas, north of Jomsom and Muktinath. A hard working people, they are nomadic pastorals, traders, and weavers.
LOPAS Lopas lives in Lo mangthang, the capital of the high and arid region of Mustang, once an independent state. Of Tibetan ethnicity, they follow Tibetan Buddhism and number about 6000.
BARAGAUNLE The name means " twelve village people". The Baragaunle are also ethnically Tibetan and live in the Muktinath Valley and follow the forms of Lamaistic Buddhisn that also incorporates elements of animism.
MANANGIS Known also as Manangpa or Nyeshang, this group live in manang region and along the northern stretches of Marsyangdi River. They are perhaps the wealthist of any Bhotia groups thank to a still extent 18th century decree by Rana Bahadur Shah which gave them trading privileges with Tibet and which have today been adopted to the trade of luxury items, some which find their way to kathmandu.
Biden out, Trump next president, so what’s gonna happen to TPS, termination?
and it begins - on Day 1 Trump will begin operations to deport millions of undocumented immigrants
Tourist Visa - Seeking Suggestions and Guidance
From Trump “I will revoke TPS, and deport them back to their country.”
I hope all the fake Nepali refugee get deported
Anybody gotten the TPS EAD extension alert notice (i797) thing? online or via post?
Those who are in TPS, what’s your backup plan?
advanced parole
TPS Renewal Reregistration
Sajha Poll: Who is your favorite Nepali actress?
Biden said he will issue new Employment visa for someone with college degree and job offers
Why Americans reverse park?
Nepali Passport Renew
Driver license help ASAP sathiharu
They are openly permitting undocumented immigrants to participate in federal elections in Arizona now.
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