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grgDai
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Posted on 04-25-10 12:28
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Although Nepal's literacy rate is about 40%, only about 10% have had made
it through any form of systematic education upto highschool levels. Hence
the reality is that almost 90% of the people are not 'educated' in the
sense of actually knowing or understanding the overall situation of the
country. In this kind of circumstance, democracy becomes a wish
fulfilling tree for the corrupt politicians to meet their own or the
political groups goals. So they can get elected by public election noone
can question the democratic norms. The uneducated population will vote
because they are swayed by the deceiving speeches, or they are afraid of
them, or they may have false hope. But the reality is that they are
practicing a democratic system and noone should questioning the results
of the fair and free elections. As they say lato deshma gado
tanneri, the gado leaders are leading the general lato population and
anyone who does not fit into the equation will either feel left out or
will be made to fit into the equation. That is why most people in that
category will leave the country not because they don't love their
country because their education does not count for squat. Their
education is stifled in the suffocating socio-political numbness. The
result is a never ending downward spiral of more gado tanneri's creating
more latos to rule over and exploit. The handful of educated or
aware citizens who choose to live in Nepal have to abide by the gado
tanneris rule not because they enjoy it but because there is no other
way. So what is the solution? As long as the country is
ruled by gado tanneris, the country will head into a downward spiral. List
your solutions here.
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furke
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Posted on 04-25-10 12:38
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We need a patriotic dictator. A real hero... Before that chop heads off of all the political retards who could bring a false protest.
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grgDai
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Posted on 04-26-10 7:29
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furke that could be a solution. The best solution would be if the educated people who cared about nepal formed a party and put full effort to make changes then nothing would stop them but do they care enough? Maybe not.
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Morange
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Posted on 04-26-10 8:44
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Simple answer is asap annexation with india.
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बैरागिकाइलो
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Posted on 04-26-10 9:24
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A feeling of nationalism makes true difference but it must at least minimal to moderate. Extreme Nationalism may lead to Hitlarizm, but I do not see it will be happening. We voters as well the leaders are lacking this point. As well Indian's vision toward Nepal needs to be changed from Big Brothers to a Sovereign Nation.
Divide and rules are applied fully specially by Maoist, all parties are formed for personal or tribal benefit. We all ( voters and so called leaders) are always drive by personal benefit due to this reason every thing are going down.Most industries are going down, they were intentionally harmed and shut down. We are going to be the market of Khasa and Bihar (India).
We have lost ETHIC as well logic and it is over shadowed by personal well being and benefit. We have still question about Ethic can be back by Literacy , of course it will if we acquire wisdom through education.
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jneutron
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Posted on 04-26-10 10:01
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you want solution?.get 100 people to surround the indian embassy, then go inside and burn it
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dekchidriver
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Posted on 04-26-10 11:41
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@jneutron: excellent suggestion. for these reasons: 1. burning the indian embassy will definitely scare india into acknowledging the true power of a 100 'jawans' of our prestigious nation. 2. indians surely dont have enough money to build another embassy in nepal. 3. its easy to find these 100 people lounging in ktm to help bring down the house. plus tell them hritik roshan is hiding in that embassy, im sure they'll do it for free (if u wanna save ureself some money). We can all learn something from Jneutron's problem solving and analytical skills. Bravo!
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dekchidriver
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Posted on 04-26-10 11:57
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@grgDai: totally agree with you there. there is a huge gap in the overall education of our country. and it IS one of the things that *should* be in the top priority list of our nation's *leaders*. (i dunno, are these things public information? :S i.e - leaders haru ko priority lists). While that is important, I also feel that our country needs a revision of our infrastructure. From roads to communication towers to city layout. And not just Kathmandu. I am from Kathmandu but I feel unfair that most of these leaders only do things in and around kathmandu and thats the reason for this congestion that we see today. Roads are pivotal in a country's development. Now, I'm not talking from experience but seeing these excellent systems in place, highways freeways, sometimes made me think what if we had ONE BIG highway (call it the spine) from east to west (yes I know thats the arniko highway). And along this spine, branch it north or south to the various towns that lie around there. If we can have a good transportation network it will boost business and hopefully we can slowly stop depending on dhotiland to provide us for needles and salt. Fixing of krishnabhir is also cruicial. maybe there is another major point of access into ktm that I'm at this point not aware of, but every time that darn mountain goes down, the entire city of kathmandu is cut off from the rest of the country! Some bottleneck! Anyways, we definitely have a long way to go. I was thinking of going into detail of a couple of things in my head, but not feeling that motivated (Monday morning at work). I will keep an eye on this thread. grgDai, some more intellectual discussions to look forward to :) and @Morange: Although I see what your saying, and it is a feasible option (being part of one of the future superpower nations of the world), I think our Nepali people have at least some sense of patriotism to keep that as a last resort. :) Myself included, I wouldn't really be happy to lose our cultural identity, but then history has record of millions who did, so lets see what happens! :) cheers.
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Kiddo
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Posted on 04-26-10 12:21
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That’s a long term solution grgdai. First of all we have to get the country to a position where we can peacefully educate the citizens. With chakkajams and bandhs when do we have time to goto school? How do we get there? Step a: Regain the law enforcement power: 1. Temporarily integrate army and police as a national force (they can operate from their bases) to restore peace in the country. Either the defense minister or a new appointee should head this coalition. 2. Peaceful protests should be encouraged however violent nepal bandhs and riots should be banned. This should be enforced by the above mentioned national force. 3. Nationwide cease the weapon should be enforced via national force. Nation cannot and shouldn’t tolerate a separate armed civilian force. 4. Supreme court’s decision should be the final and more power should be given to Akhtiyaar durupayog, possibly expanding the latter to oversee small cases (bribery done in lower levels). Step b: Redistribute state powers 1. Five development regions should be revised to better represent the ethnic makeup of the states. Each state should have a representing chief of state (more powerful than CDO) who will be held accountable for the development of their region. Since mobocracy is currently prevalent, it might not be a bad idea to appoint the chief of states by the parliament (instead of election) and give them set goals which needs to be fulfilled by the end of their term to extend their term. Other proposals to follow. Fursad bha bela pheri lekhamla.
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no_quiero
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Posted on 04-26-10 12:54
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Kiddo..... I will make small change to your point 2 ....... Peaceful protest should be encouragedIn Nepal any party can protest blocking roads, causing traffic havoc and affecting small shops etc in the name of peaceful protest. Every party that have done andolan in nepal has said they were having peaceful protest. When Former Ex-Gurkha wanted to protest in Britain they had to take an appointment with british government. The government then gave them time and place to protest. The ex gurkhas, medias came to that place at that time and protested. No traffic was blocked, no other people were affected. That is what we call a peaceful protest. We should not infringe on other person rights in the name of protest.
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Kiddo
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Posted on 04-26-10 1:33
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No_quiero, I see your point, but read mine: U said, "In Nepal any party can protest blocking roads, causing traffic havoc and affecting small shops etc in the name of peaceful protest. " "In the name of" implies it is not really carried out that way (peacefully). Most of the times a chakkajam involves burning of tires and blocking the roads violently, this can be completely banned. Now peaceful protest without disrupting the traffic is not a problem to anybody, but once they start disrupting the traffic and completely blocking the roads, they are violating some law. Have u seen a complete traffic halt in the middle of a major US downtown? Ofcourse they have civil and labor unions but they get permit to protest. U might have seen picket fences outside a company but even they aren't allowed to block the access gates. I agree that it is a sensitive issue to deal with, but atleast a violent protest should be completely banned.
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grgDai
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Posted on 04-26-10 1:34
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I'm going to keep tabs of good ideas that come up at the end part of the original posting. Peaceful protest should mean that the govt gives approval to protest at an assigned location so that normal people's lives are not affected with traffic jams and closures. Nice one. Dekchidriver, education, roads, communication, law everything is important but as long as the leaders are not upto par or as long as they don't care about the country, nothing is going to happen. I think it is imperative that first and foremost we need educated leaders who show genuine concern for the country, who are not there to amass wealth for themselves or their family. Such leaders can legalize things such as peaceful protest as mentioned above so that political opponents cannot abuse protests to bring country to a standstill as well as the lives of the hardworking individuals who have to work everyday to feed their families. At the same time instill strict laws that are fair and equal for everyone. Only then any infrastructure for development can be made.
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Khairey
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Posted on 04-26-10 2:41
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Another solution would be atleast be liberal to allow more freedom for organizations like Jesuit who can open 100s of school like St. Xaviers throughout the country. With lots of such organization, there could be some influence of Christanity. But at least that is for a good cause promoting love and progress. And see what difference will it make after 15 years. We got to loose something if we need a social change. Cutting heads or balls of Netas or Jantas is not going to solve any problem.
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बैरागिकाइलो
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Posted on 04-26-10 4:44
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I do not think that type of social changes will help.
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Morange
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Posted on 04-26-10 5:00
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We all should accept for annexation with INDIA sooner or later otherwise Nepalese version of Lendup Dorzee(PRACHNDE) will keep on killing nepali people.
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